Discussion:
Uncle Tomism Parcticed in North Africa
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Jason Murray - The Great One
2003-09-18 18:57:59 UTC
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Why oh why are North Africans focused on this arab title? Do they even know what an arab is or is supposed to look like? North Africans are mulattoes, so why do they act funny towards real Africans, including those in Arabic countries and are supposed to be arabs?

Why do Africans want to be arabs (whatever that is)? Does selling out give you a better life? Why do non-Arabic Africans always protect and fall for the tricks of the Arabic man? This Uncle Tom practice in Africa and the middle east are much worse than in the US and comparable to that of Latin American Uncle Tomism.
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Sargon
2003-09-21 04:48:52 UTC
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Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
Why oh why are North Africans focused on this arab title? Do they even
know what an arab is or is supposed to look like? North Africans are
mulattoes, so why do they act funny towards real Africans, including
those in Arabic countries and are supposed to be arabs?
Why do Africans want to be arabs (whatever that is)? Does selling out
give you a better life? Why do non-Arabic Africans always protect and
fall for the tricks of the Arabic man? This Uncle Tom practice in
Africa and the middle east are much worse than in the US and comparable
to that of Latin American Uncle Tomism.
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Mighty whitey's propaganda machine reaches far and wide. People all
over the world who have never seen a black american are bombarded
constantly with negative stereotypes about american blacks. They hear
it on the radio from neocon american Jesus pimps, they hear it from
casually prejudiced white tourists, it gets related to them by their
countrymen returning from a sojourn in america. Nobody wants to be a
nigger! Sub saharan africans take great pains not to be confused with
american blacks. Ethnic groups that have black features go through
violent contortions to avoid the stigma. People from pan racial
cultures, including Arabs, engage in duplicity about their family
history and racial makeup to avoid the wretched loss of dignity they
know would follow if their true identities were known.

Let's face it, white racists have had 300 years to come up with a
mythology even better than the divine right of kings, and it works well.
Cultures that could swat the white man like a fly are lined up to kiss
white asses!
wgodfrey
2003-09-21 14:10:32 UTC
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Post by Sargon
Mighty whitey's propaganda machine reaches far and wide. People all
over the world who have never seen a black american are bombarded
constantly with negative stereotypes about american blacks. They hear
it on the radio from neocon american Jesus pimps, they hear it from
casually prejudiced white tourists, it gets related to them by their
countrymen returning from a sojourn in america. Nobody wants to be a
nigger! Sub saharan africans take great pains not to be confused with
american blacks. Ethnic groups that have black features go through
violent contortions to avoid the stigma. People from pan racial
cultures, including Arabs, engage in duplicity about their family
history and racial makeup to avoid the wretched loss of dignity they
know would follow if their true identities were known.
Let's face it, white racists have had 300 years to come up with a
mythology even better than the divine right of kings, and it works well.
Cultures that could swat the white man like a fly are lined up to kiss
white asses!
You are being extremely simplistic. There are many who had a more positive
impression of US Blacks before actually having lived in America.
Byker
2003-09-21 21:24:18 UTC
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Post by Sargon
Sub saharan africans take great pains not to be confused with
american blacks.
You got that right. I don't how many times I've heard African immigrants
say, "American blacks are lazy...."
David Richardson
2003-09-22 02:53:33 UTC
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Post by Byker
Post by Sargon
Sub saharan africans take great pains not to be confused with
american blacks.
You got that right. I don't how many times I've heard African immigrants
say, "American blacks are lazy...."
The truth be told, Americans are plain lazy period. This is why so
many Indians are invading the IT territory. On my current job I am
going thru a sub of a sub - both are Indian dominated/owned
companies....

dratster
Jason Murray - The Great One
2003-09-22 03:03:48 UTC
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I was fucking a Nigerian woman and she was still saying that. Not while we
were fucking.
Post by Byker
Post by Sargon
Sub saharan africans take great pains not to be confused with
american blacks.
You got that right. I don't how many times I've heard African immigrants
say, "American blacks are lazy...."
Boris Ryser
2003-09-24 15:44:44 UTC
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I was fucking a Nigerian woman and she was still saying that. Not while we
were fucking.
Post by Byker
Post by Sargon
Sub saharan africans take great pains not to be confused with
american blacks.
You got that right. I don't how many times I've heard African immigrants
say, "American blacks are lazy...."
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Jason Murray - The Great One
2003-09-25 03:16:42 UTC
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First of all, African-Americans are not black. We are as much white as we
are black. It is just that American white supremacy and the white
purity/extinction theory makes us black and makes whites with black in them
white and not black. Figure that out.
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
I was fucking a Nigerian woman and she was still saying that. Not while we
were fucking.
Post by Byker
Post by Sargon
Sub saharan africans take great pains not to be confused with
american blacks.
You got that right. I don't how many times I've heard African immigrants
say, "American blacks are lazy...."
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Byker
2003-09-25 03:59:44 UTC
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It is just that American white supremacy and the white
purity/extinction theory makes us black
It's your TNB that sets you apart, bootlip....
Jason Murray - The Great One
2003-09-27 01:27:09 UTC
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Bootlip? I don't get it. Many, many 'white' people have questionable
facial features that do not appear to be a natural European feature. Thick
lips, curly hair, a tan that won't go away and brown nipples are good clues.
Post by Byker
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
It is just that American white supremacy and the white
purity/extinction theory makes us black
It's your TNB that sets you apart, bootlip....
Byker
2003-09-27 02:59:38 UTC
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Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
Bootlip? I don't get it. Many, many 'white' people have questionable
facial features that do not appear to be a natural European feature.
Thick
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
lips, curly hair, a tan that won't go away and brown nipples are good clues.
Still, they "pass for White." If they could pass for black, they'd have it
made, polishing chairs with their asses in do-nothing city/state/federal
gubmint AA jobs. Besides, most Whites are more comfortable around redbones
and snow queens than tar babies....
Jason Murray - The Great One
2003-09-28 01:59:59 UTC
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I have not noticed that. They do not seem that comfortable with me. The
women do. Whites seem more comfortable around 'tar babies' who sound white
and act white as opposed to my kind. As a matter of fact, whites seem more
comfortable around any one who acts white.

Besides, most Whites are more comfortable around redbones
Post by Byker
and snow queens than tar babies....
Bill
2003-09-28 19:18:51 UTC
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It was the American 'Blacks' that decided they wanted to be called Black,
instead of 'Colored'.
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
First of all, African-Americans are not black. We are as much white as we
are black. It is just that American white supremacy and the white
purity/extinction theory makes us black and makes whites with black in them
white and not black. Figure that out.
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
I was fucking a Nigerian woman and she was still saying that. Not while
we
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
were fucking.
Post by Byker
Post by Sargon
Sub saharan africans take great pains not to be confused with
american blacks.
You got that right. I don't how many times I've heard African
immigrants
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
Post by Byker
say, "American blacks are lazy...."
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Jason Murray - The Great One
2003-09-29 02:22:48 UTC
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Yes, a select few who chose to speak for us all, but it was the white man
who said we were black. Learn, negro means black. It was the white man who
said that were black and not anything else. Even if we were white. This is
the same dilemma the hispanics are going through, except they want to be
white and not black.
Post by Bill
It was the American 'Blacks' that decided they wanted to be called Black,
instead of 'Colored'.
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
First of all, African-Americans are not black. We are as much white as we
are black. It is just that American white supremacy and the white
purity/extinction theory makes us black and makes whites with black in
them
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
white and not black. Figure that out.
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
I was fucking a Nigerian woman and she was still saying that. Not while
we
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
were fucking.
Post by Byker
Post by Sargon
Sub saharan africans take great pains not to be confused with
american blacks.
You got that right. I don't how many times I've heard African
immigrants
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
Post by Byker
say, "American blacks are lazy...."
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FB
2003-10-03 09:25:52 UTC
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Do you wish you are white?

FB
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
Yes, a select few who chose to speak for us all, but it was the white man
who said we were black. Learn, negro means black. It was the white man who
said that were black and not anything else. Even if we were white. This is
the same dilemma the hispanics are going through, except they want to be
white and not black.
Post by Bill
It was the American 'Blacks' that decided they wanted to be called Black,
instead of 'Colored'.
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
First of all, African-Americans are not black. We are as much white
as
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
we
Post by Bill
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
are black. It is just that American white supremacy and the white
purity/extinction theory makes us black and makes whites with black in
them
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
white and not black. Figure that out.
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
I was fucking a Nigerian woman and she was still saying that. Not
while
Post by Bill
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
we
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
were fucking.
Post by Byker
Post by Sargon
Sub saharan africans take great pains not to be confused with
american blacks.
You got that right. I don't how many times I've heard African
immigrants
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
Post by Byker
say, "American blacks are lazy...."
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Jason Murray - The Great One
2003-10-03 15:31:46 UTC
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Do you wish you are white?
FB
No I do not wish I are white. Get your shit together.
FB
2003-10-06 14:04:43 UTC
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Do you wish you are white?
FB
No I do not wish I are white. Get your shit together.
????
Your English is pretty appaling, is it a second language?

Anyway, more importantly, you seem to be trying to create different classes
of black people, with you (of very fair skin) being in a 'higher' class.

I could be wrong, but that is the impression your witterings give.
David Richardson
2003-10-06 19:47:19 UTC
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Do you wish you are white?
FB
No I do not wish I are white. Get your shit together.
????
Your English is pretty appaling, is it a second language?
He was playing with you when you asked the original question : "Do you
wish you are white?" - Recheck your original sentence for grammar....
Jason Murray - The Great One
2003-10-07 03:31:48 UTC
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Do you wish you are white?
FB
No I do not wish I are white. Get your shit together.
????
Your English is pretty appaling, is it a second language?
He was playing with you when you asked the original question : "Do you
wish you are white?" - Recheck your original sentence for grammar....
Thank you.
FB
2003-10-07 13:11:15 UTC
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Do you wish you are white?
FB
No I do not wish I are white. Get your shit together.
????
Your English is pretty appaling, is it a second language?
He was playing with you when you asked the original question : "Do you
wish you are white?" - Recheck your original sentence for grammar....
Thank you.
Oh dear.

'Americanism' passing for English.

I suppose in your world the question 'do yo wish you were white?' would
have seemed the only correct way to phrase the question.

Oh dear, oh dear.

I do realise Jason was 'toying' but showing up one's lack of understanding
of the language in an attempt to show up someone else's. Well....

Me thinks both of you need a crash course in English (I mean proper English)

With Regards

FB
Jason Murray - The Great One
2003-10-07 03:32:44 UTC
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Do you wish you are white?
FB
No I do not wish I are white. Get your shit together.
????
Your English is pretty appaling, is it a second language?
Anyway, more importantly, you seem to be trying to create different classes
of black people, with you (of very fair skin) being in a 'higher' class.
I could be wrong, but that is the impression your witterings give.
Your wrong, but I must use it to my advantage when schooling darker
so-called latinos and arabics.
FB
2003-10-07 13:15:56 UTC
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Do you wish you are white?
FB
No I do not wish I are white. Get your shit together.
????
Your English is pretty appaling, is it a second language?
Anyway, more importantly, you seem to be trying to create different
classes
Post by FB
of black people, with you (of very fair skin) being in a 'higher' class.
I could be wrong, but that is the impression your witterings give.
Your wrong, but I must use it to my advantage when schooling darker
so-called latinos and arabics.
Fair enough, I'll take what you say at face value.

But I do notice in another thread that you say, with some conviction, that
black americans look different from black africans......
Jason Murray - The Great One
2003-10-07 17:11:05 UTC
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Do you wish you are white?
FB
No I do not wish I are white. Get your shit together.
????
Your English is pretty appaling, is it a second language?
Anyway, more importantly, you seem to be trying to create different
classes
Post by FB
of black people, with you (of very fair skin) being in a 'higher' class.
I could be wrong, but that is the impression your witterings give.
Your wrong, but I must use it to my advantage when schooling darker
so-called latinos and arabics.
Fair enough, I'll take what you say at face value.
But I do notice in another thread that you say, with some conviction, that
black americans look different from black africans......
It's true! Africans do not look like us. If you think they do, then your
mind is programmed to see all as the same. We can spot Africans a mile
away. Black Americans do not even look African. There is nothing
prejudicial about that, it is true. I don't look African, unless your
talking North African.
FB
2003-10-08 08:44:58 UTC
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Do you wish you are white?
FB
No I do not wish I are white. Get your shit together.
????
Your English is pretty appaling, is it a second language?
Anyway, more importantly, you seem to be trying to create different
classes
Post by FB
of black people, with you (of very fair skin) being in a 'higher'
class.
Post by FB
Post by FB
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I could be wrong, but that is the impression your witterings give.
Your wrong, but I must use it to my advantage when schooling darker
so-called latinos and arabics.
Fair enough, I'll take what you say at face value.
But I do notice in another thread that you say, with some conviction, that
black americans look different from black africans......
It's true! Africans do not look like us. If you think they do, then your
mind is programmed to see all as the same. We can spot Africans a mile
away. Black Americans do not even look African. There is nothing
prejudicial about that, it is true. I don't look African, unless your
talking North African.
OK, let's take this very slowly.

A few of questions:-

A - In what way do black africans and black americans look different?

B - On the basis that they 'originate' from the same place, i.e. western
coast of Africa, why are there differences in appearance?

C - This is going coming at a tangent. Can you tell the difference - in
looks that is, say between Chinese and American Chinese, or Western European
and American.

D - If the answer to C above is in the affirmative; What are the
differences?

Ta.

FB
Jason Murray - The Great One
2003-10-08 13:42:52 UTC
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It's true! Africans do not look like us. If you think they do, then your
mind is programmed to see all as the same. We can spot Africans a mile
away. Black Americans do not even look African. There is nothing
prejudicial about that, it is true. I don't look African, unless your
talking North African.
OK, let's take this very slowly.
A few of questions:-
A - In what way do black africans and black americans look different?
I see that your a motherfucker, but here we go anyway. Skin complexion.
AA's are not as dark. There are some darker people who are
African-Americans, but they are few. Many confuse Jamaicans for AA's
because of the English names. 90% of Jamaicans are distingusihable from
AA's. I should not have to tell you that AA's don't even look alike.

Facial features is another. Depending on the type of African. As you
should know AA's have been mixing with whites and others, so the African
look is almost gone. Compare 19th century photos of AA's with today and
you'll see.
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B - On the basis that they 'originate' from the same place, i.e. western
coast of Africa, why are there differences in appearance?
Not all AA's are from the west coast. Not all of the Africans slaves
originated from the west coast. The reason for the differences are above.
I am sure that you are BSing me, but I know I can spot an African anytime.
Just as I can tell the difference between a white American and a European
most of the time.
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C - This is going coming at a tangent. Can you tell the difference - in
looks that is, say between Chinese and American Chinese, or Western European
and American.
That was not the topic. Most Asians in America mix with whites and those
kids blend into the white catagory (Dean Cain) and are 'declassified' as
Asian or Chinese. To answer you question, I can tell the difference in most
cases. CA's usually have a certain attitude, dress or hairstyle that shows
America. Not to mention CA's often have thicker bodies or less Asisan
bodies than Asians. Many Asisan try their best not to look Asian.

Europeans I can spot because of many of the same traits with the Asians.
Europeans are often nicer and well mannored. It is a little harder to tell
the physical differences because European nations exchange cultures and
wealth with each other and America unlike other countries.
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D - If the answer to C above is in the affirmative; What are the
differences?
Ta.
FB
FB
2003-10-08 15:46:51 UTC
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OK, let's take this very slowly.
A few of questions:-
A - In what way do black africans and black americans look different?
I see that your a motherfucker, but here we go anyway. Skin complexion.
AA's are not as dark. There are some darker people who are
African-Americans, but they are few. Many confuse Jamaicans for AA's
because of the English names. 90% of Jamaicans are distingusihable from
AA's. I should not have to tell you that AA's don't even look alike.
Facial features is another. Depending on the type of African. As you
should know AA's have been mixing with whites and others, so the African
look is almost gone. Compare 19th century photos of AA's with today and
you'll see.
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B - On the basis that they 'originate' from the same place, i.e. western
coast of Africa, why are there differences in appearance?
Not all AA's are from the west coast. Not all of the Africans slaves
originated from the west coast. The reason for the differences are above.
I am sure that you are BSing me, but I know I can spot an African anytime.
Just as I can tell the difference between a white American and a European
most of the time.
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C - This is going coming at a tangent. Can you tell the difference - in
looks that is, say between Chinese and American Chinese, or Western
European
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and American.
That was not the topic. Most Asians in America mix with whites and those
kids blend into the white catagory (Dean Cain) and are 'declassified' as
Asian or Chinese. To answer you question, I can tell the difference in most
cases. CA's usually have a certain attitude, dress or hairstyle that shows
America. Not to mention CA's often have thicker bodies or less Asisan
bodies than Asians. Many Asisan try their best not to look Asian.
Europeans I can spot because of many of the same traits with the Asians.
Europeans are often nicer and well mannored. It is a little harder to tell
the physical differences because European nations exchange cultures and
wealth with each other and America unlike other countries.
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D - If the answer to C above is in the affirmative; What are the
differences?
Ta.
FB
So, I'm a mother fucker? Interesting.

Which do you think is better, the AA look of the black african look and
why?

As a total aside, has it not occurred to you that all racial groups have
sub-sets, but to the uninitiated (i.e. all outsiders) they all look the
same?

And on the English language theme it's 'you're' not 'your a'.

FB
Jason Murray - The Great One
2003-10-08 17:49:17 UTC
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OK, let's take this very slowly.
A few of questions:-
A - In what way do black africans and black americans look different?
I see that your a motherfucker, but here we go anyway. Skin complexion.
AA's are not as dark. There are some darker people who are
African-Americans, but they are few. Many confuse Jamaicans for AA's
because of the English names. 90% of Jamaicans are distingusihable from
AA's. I should not have to tell you that AA's don't even look alike.
Facial features is another. Depending on the type of African. As you
should know AA's have been mixing with whites and others, so the African
look is almost gone. Compare 19th century photos of AA's with today and
you'll see.
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B - On the basis that they 'originate' from the same place, i.e. western
coast of Africa, why are there differences in appearance?
Not all AA's are from the west coast. Not all of the Africans slaves
originated from the west coast. The reason for the differences are above.
I am sure that you are BSing me, but I know I can spot an African anytime.
Just as I can tell the difference between a white American and a European
most of the time.
Post by FB
C - This is going coming at a tangent. Can you tell the difference - in
looks that is, say between Chinese and American Chinese, or Western
European
Post by FB
and American.
That was not the topic. Most Asians in America mix with whites and those
kids blend into the white catagory (Dean Cain) and are 'declassified' as
Asian or Chinese. To answer you question, I can tell the difference in
most
Post by Jason Murray - The Great One
cases. CA's usually have a certain attitude, dress or hairstyle that
shows
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America. Not to mention CA's often have thicker bodies or less Asisan
bodies than Asians. Many Asisan try their best not to look Asian.
Europeans I can spot because of many of the same traits with the Asians.
Europeans are often nicer and well mannored. It is a little harder to
tell
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the physical differences because European nations exchange cultures and
wealth with each other and America unlike other countries.
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D - If the answer to C above is in the affirmative; What are the
differences?
Ta.
FB
So, I'm a mother fucker? Interesting.
Which do you think is better, the AA look of the black african look and
why?
As a total aside, has it not occurred to you that all racial groups have
sub-sets, but to the uninitiated (i.e. all outsiders) they all look the
same?
Well that is true, but it depends on if people really care or not. If you
care, you notice the differences. I can tell that you have. You ARE just
trying to be a wise-ass. Let me tell you this. These sub-sets that you
refer to only can about through mixing with others and those mixed mixing
with others and then coming back to the main group and so on.

As far as the better look? Some of those East Africans have nice black
looks. I like Ethiopian woman. Other African women can look good also. It
all depends on how they take care of themselves. When you see the down and
out African with no clothes on and hair looking however, that is not
attractive even if it were someone other than African. I know where your
trying to go. You want me to say that AA's look nicer because we have white
in us. If so, then whites don't look too great without our blood. Oh, you
do have our blood in you also.
FB
2003-10-09 13:44:51 UTC
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OK, let's take this very slowly.
A few of questions:-
A - In what way do black africans and black americans look different?
I see that your a motherfucker, but here we go anyway. Skin complexion.
AA's are not as dark. There are some darker people who are
African-Americans, but they are few. Many confuse Jamaicans for AA's
because of the English names. 90% of Jamaicans are distingusihable from
AA's. I should not have to tell you that AA's don't even look alike.
Facial features is another. Depending on the type of African. As you
should know AA's have been mixing with whites and others, so the African
look is almost gone. Compare 19th century photos of AA's with today and
you'll see.
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B - On the basis that they 'originate' from the same place, i.e.
western
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coast of Africa, why are there differences in appearance?
Not all AA's are from the west coast. Not all of the Africans slaves
originated from the west coast. The reason for the differences are
above.
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I am sure that you are BSing me, but I know I can spot an African
anytime.
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Just as I can tell the difference between a white American and a
European
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most of the time.
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C - This is going coming at a tangent. Can you tell the difference -
in
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looks that is, say between Chinese and American Chinese, or Western
European
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and American.
That was not the topic. Most Asians in America mix with whites and
those
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kids blend into the white catagory (Dean Cain) and are 'declassified' as
Asian or Chinese. To answer you question, I can tell the difference in
most
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cases. CA's usually have a certain attitude, dress or hairstyle that
shows
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America. Not to mention CA's often have thicker bodies or less Asisan
bodies than Asians. Many Asisan try their best not to look Asian.
Europeans I can spot because of many of the same traits with the Asians.
Europeans are often nicer and well mannored. It is a little harder to
tell
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the physical differences because European nations exchange cultures and
wealth with each other and America unlike other countries.
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D - If the answer to C above is in the affirmative; What are the
differences?
Ta.
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So, I'm a mother fucker? Interesting.
Which do you think is better, the AA look of the black african look and
why?
As a total aside, has it not occurred to you that all racial groups have
sub-sets, but to the uninitiated (i.e. all outsiders) they all look the
same?
Well that is true, but it depends on if people really care or not. If you
care, you notice the differences. I can tell that you have. You ARE just
trying to be a wise-ass. Let me tell you this. These sub-sets that you
refer to only can about through mixing with others and those mixed mixing
with others and then coming back to the main group and so on.
As far as the better look? Some of those East Africans have nice black
looks. I like Ethiopian woman. Other African women can look good also.
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all depends on how they take care of themselves. When you see the down and
out African with no clothes on and hair looking however, that is not
attractive even if it were someone other than African. I know where your
trying to go. You want me to say that AA's look nicer because we have white
in us. If so, then whites don't look too great without our blood. Oh, you
do have our blood in you also.
Jason;

I think you are jumping to too many conclusions about me without having any
facts.

I was interested in how you could differentiate between AA and BA (I'll call
black aficans BA from now on if that's okay), but I'm not sure I agree with
you.

I think the differences you come up with are between wealthy/poor and
educated/sub-educated.

I think most outsiders are not remotely interested in racial sub-sets, i.e
to all non-whites, all whites look the same, and to all non chinese all
chinese look the same and so on.

I think you try too hard to make much of what are largely insignificant
differences obvious only you.

I think any non-black will see you as a black person, full stop.

And finally; not trying to be a smart ass, just wanted you to explain your
thinking without me pre-suppossing. Sound's fair to me.

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2003-10-09 16:43:46 UTC
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Jason;
I think you are jumping to too many conclusions about me without having any
facts.
I was interested in how you could differentiate between AA and BA (I'll call
black aficans BA from now on if that's okay), but I'm not sure I agree with
you.
I guess it's the same way you want to differentiate the north African from
the so-called 'black only(!)' 'sub-Saharan' Africa. If you see a difference
once the terrain changes from forest to desert, then you are truly only
going by the books. Therefore, if you see a change in the people from the
forests being black, to the desert being black, but not being called black,
then AA's should look very different to you from black Africans. As if
black Africans are in the minority on their own land.
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I think the differences you come up with are between wealthy/poor and
educated/sub-educated.
Nope.
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I think most outsiders are not remotely interested in racial sub-sets, i.e
to all non-whites, all whites look the same,
False again. I am a non-white and I am telling you that we know an Italian
and we do not consider most of them to be white. We know that whites are
not the same but they (Americans) want us to beleive that they are. A
redheaded Irish person and a dark-skinned, culry jet-black haired Portugeuse
are clearly not the same people. They may come from the same land mass, but
they are not the same. In fact, Europeans look the least alike out of all
groups (save arabs and hispanics). Yellow hair, red hair, brown hair, blue
eyes, green eyes, grey eyes, big nose, thin nose, 'dark' skin, white skin,
salami-like skin ('cute' word, freckles), full lips, thins lips, no lips,
curly hair, wavy hair, kinky hair, straight hair. I can go on. They all
look alike to you?

Now you take take AA's. White skin, tan skin, brown skin, yellow skin,
caramel skin, dark skin, curly hair kinky hair, straight hair, blond hair,
red hair, yellow hair, full lips, thins lips, 'chinky' eyes, almond eyes,
thin nose, broad nose, blue eyes, green eyes, hazel eyes, brown eyes. Do
you see an overlap?

BLACK Africans. The kind whites love to call black only. Following their
logic. Dark skin, black skin, broad nose, kinky hair, brown eyse, black
eyes, full lips. They match AA's point for points huh? I think you see the
overlap. Whites and those of European origins who are not white, just want
to see themselves as white. You only see what you want to see about
yourselves. You only see us as black because you used to it. You know that
you see the difference between AA's and BA's, but you say you do not because
the similarities between the AA's and 'whites' are too powerful to ignore.

and to all non chinese all
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chinese look the same and so on.
Fact: Mexicans often think of me as Puerto-Rican. So they do not see
people as one kind. Race (classifications, American.) is only political,
not reality. I know that Puerto-Ricans are black. They (PR's) don't think
so. Whites call them hispanics, but Mexicans must see them as black also if
they keep thinking that I am a PR.
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I think you try too hard to make much of what are largely insignificant
differences obvious only you.
I think you try to hard to hide the dark side in you. You also try make
false connections in the real world with your white supremaist imaginative
one.
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I think any non-black will see you as a black person, full stop.
See above. I love to test people's perceptions. I will usually tell people
I am from a middle-eastern country. I notice how people do not look
surprised. Sometimes i'll say I am Puerto-Rican. PR's will look stunned.
I will see more African-looking PR's being accpeted as PR. Shocking.
People confused language, culture and media brainwashing with a race of
people. If we told the truth (people know it, but don't like to say it
until the black man forces it out), we would not have a problem/
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And finally; not trying to be a smart ass, just wanted you to explain your
thinking without me pre-suppossing. Sound's fair to me.
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Why oh why are North Africans focused on this arab title? Do they even
know what an arab is or is supposed to look like? North Africans are
mulattoes, so why do they act funny towards real Africans, including
those in Arabic countries and are supposed to be arabs?
North Africa counts 5 countries and it is just idiotic of your part
to put them in the same category. Yes the population of Morocco is
mostly mulatto
but the population of Algeria is mostly white. You have not been there
and do not know what you are talking about. You are right in one sens
when you say that there are Arab Tomists in North Africa (people who
claim to be arab while actually there are not); these Arab Tomists
are controlling countries
like Morocco and Algeria and there are the ones who pretend officially
that these countries are Arab while actually there are Not. But they
impose arabic in school , wrote the arab oriented constitution and
keeps repeating
to all foreigners that their countries are arab while the vast
majority of their population are Berbers and Berbers have nothing to
do with Arabs.
But Things are changing.
And damn it man , North Africans from Morocco and Algeria have a lot
of respect to other African nations.
Read History idiot instead of coming with bullshit you learned from
some
crappy propaganda.
I do not know about Egypt and Lybia or Tunisia but then again I told
you to not put all these countries in the same bag.
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Why do Africans want to be arabs (whatever that is)? Does selling out
give you a better life? Why do non-Arabic Africans always protect and
fall for the tricks of the Arabic man? This Uncle Tom practice in
Africa and the middle east are much worse than in the US and comparable
to that of Latin American Uncle Tomism.
Arab Tomism is the # 1 problem in coutries like Algeria and
Morocco.
It is a neurologic disease that has made a country like Algeria
a Banana republic. Some people reject their own Berber culture to
adopt a french or arabic culture that makes them retarded for the rest
of their lifes
since they lie to themselves, their communities and the rest of the
world.
An example is the algerian dictator Bouteflika.
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